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Along with what ever happened to moderate Republicans, it’s also what ever happended to moderate Democrats?
I guess the 2 new parties are:
Liberal/Progressives
Conservatives/Tea Party
Their are no more Dems or Repubs. Everyone please select a new party.
Couldn’t disagree with you more. Topping the list of moderate Democrats is Obama himself (who took single payer off the table, speaks approvingly of Reagan, kept many of the provisions of the Patriot Act, and didn’t just yank all the troops out of Iraq like many on the far left wanted). In fact, it is his moderate positions that are pissing off the far left enough that it might cost the Dems heavily in the midterm elections. Give me an example of any Republican leader who has stood up to the far right the way that Obama has stood up to the far left.
Well, why won’t the far left listen to their leader? It’s not that I think the other party will so much sweep out the Dems, I think all incumbants are at risk from within and outside their own party. I wouldn’t classify him as a classic moderate, but he’ll likely be one after Nov, like Clinton.
I will give Obama his kudos for following through on Iraq and continuing the fight against Al Quaida in AF. He takes alot of heat for that. He is predictably moving more to the middle as the election draws near (all the politicians do the same).
I’ve never heard (last 12 months) any Dem mention “the root of all our economic evil” in any favorable light. I’d like to see that press.
And, by the way, I was refering to the cartoon and anti- anything phobia, hate anyone who doesn’t think, act or look just like you mentality.
The far left won’t listen to Obama precisely because he’s a moderate. IK just said it in his second to last sentence. He’s not being LIBERAL enough for them. It’s the same reason moderate republicans (which are an even more rare breed) try to dissociate from their fear-mongering, hate spewing, far right.
You can’t please all the people all the time.
If you read Obama’s books, you will learn that he says “I happen to be a Democrat.” He had to align himself with one party or another. Hillary got no where in 1993 with Health Care. Obama passed the Republican Health care plan to get something started which so many have tried to do since Teddy Roosevelt. He did this by compromise. It is a totally imperfect plan, it is a start.
Now those same Republicans who wanted to pass this in 1993 call it “Obamacare” and want to repeal it so they can concentrate the wealth of this country in the top 5%. If everyone doesn’t health insurane, you pay if someone gets sick and doesn’t have health insurance. As IK has pointed out, we can not be finished unless we have single payer health insurance. And I’m hearing Fox News watchers saying “I have always been a Republican, I’m thinking of switching. the anger and vitriol of Fox News is too much for them.
The other party? None. Independent. I voted for Obama. I’ve already told Schumer and Gillibrand that they lose my vote if they extend tax cuts to the rich. For the good of this country, we have to strive toward income equality. First step is let the tax cuts to the rich expire.
Ever hear of the “Blue Dogs?”
The reason Democrats control Congress is because they pitched a bigger tent and Republicans drove out the Rinos. Jim Leach of Iowa was a very moderate Republican, When the RNC wanted to run smear adds against his opponent in 2006 he told them no thanks, if they did he would caucus with the Democrats if victorious. When he lost he proclaimed it the happiest day of his life! He was first elected in the early 1970s. I guess being bullied by his party leadership didn’t work for him.
Oh, you might want to get your news from PBS. Getting the truth is the first step to recovery.
We need more than 2 parties. I can’t vote for the far left or right. I don’t know what they stand for. Whats happening is when the left is in charge (early Clinton)the right gets voted in to move to the middle. when the right is in charge (Bush Era) the left gets voted in to move things to the middle. Now we’re going to do it again and in 4 years again. We need to kick the fringes out of both parties and make them start their own.
There is no middle, when the fringes are the mouth pieces.
From the Leno joke, I went to read about Bloomberg wondering if maybe he might replace Biden in 2012. He looks like the answer to everything. Raised taxes in NYC. Lowered sales taxes. Had every hard line Liberal leaning anyone could want. He is as independent (being the 8th richest person in the US) He’s been a Democrat, a Republican, now an Independent. Obviously doesn’t bow down to Rove and Koch brothers. And knows his economics. Will be interesting to watch.
Bloomberg is an interesting character, but i wonder about the skeletons he may be hiding. He’s protected in NY, but not so much on a national playing field without party support.
I still hold out hope for fmr Sen Chuck Hagel to return to some form of public service.
@Patriotsgt, I agree and disagree with more than two parties. In other countries where there are many parties, the liberal votes are washed out in many different interests and conservatives tend to have control. What we need is multiple parties with a vote plurality – which is not the same as voting multiple times.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plurality_voting_system if you have questions.