Every complaint the Republicans have about the current Health Care Reform bill was even more true of the prescription drug benefit they rammed through Congress in 2003 (which was really a huge giveaway to the drug companies). I guess the real problem is that they can’t take credit for this one.
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Except for the argument saying how the HCR will cause the death of old people who are useless to the economy, which is true. And the argument about how we are all going to be put on the government program, because some people will not be able to keep their health insurance, which is of course true. And the argument that says that the individual mandate is unconstitutional, which it is. Or the argument that says there are better ways to do this in the private sector, which is of course true. Because the private sector can almost always do things better than government.
Yeah, the old folks prescription thing was a massive expanse of government, but it wasn’t as big as this. Plus, I was not happy that Bush did that, or signed the CAFE standards bill or TARP. Point is, we need a conservative not liberal assholes like Bush and Obama.
GUY – I read your whole comment, but I basically ignored everything after the blatant stupidity of your first sentence. If you really want to make arguments and you’re not just trolling you’ll need to stop opening with such tripe.
Guy wrote (after the other nonsense): “…but it (Medicare Rx plan) wasn’t as big as this is.” Exactly how is HCR more costly than the Rx plan? As in, specific costs.
Medicare D. I just got my printout for the year. My Medicare D premiums were $441.60, plus I could not have it without Medicare C which was $662.4, plus the deductible was higher last year. I paid about $500 for meds. Now I hit the donut hole. I think that was $2700, so I paid $1096 and the gov paid $1604.
Unfortunately Guy is part of a majority of Americans who are misinformed. I’m one of the elderly. No death panel here. They are offering to help plan care so someone on death’s door isn’t rushed to the hospital with tubes all over the place, etc. I’ve planned mine. Long term health care at home or nursing home with the insurance I pay. Have the home picked out for when I’m 80 and might not be able to live alone: DNR (do not resuscitate), etc. When it is my time to go, I go and make room for someone else.
My son bought a golf course with his brother in law. 200 acres of the most beautiful course. The only thing they are taking out of the income right now with all their debt is the health insurance. Yesterday not working as the golf course is only good for skiing right now, my son spiraled into a great depression. Get family out of house type, etc. Now he wants to go to rehab (drugs that none of us knew about, plus addiction to computer and TV) His golf course insurance covers no mental health. But last week his wife got a four hour full time job and can switch over to their insurance to get him the care he needs. And the law says that preexisting conditions will not disqualify him from the insurance. February 1st, he will have insurance for mental health. Thank you President Obama for getting care for my son.
Good that he can get help. Hope it works out ok.
Guy, you really got to quit the dump N run game. Be specific and state your opinion based on some facts. Not all the health care bill is bad. If by some miracle the right gets HC repealed I bet they include most or all of the popular provisions of Obamacare in their proposal.
Thank you. If there are any extra costs beyond the insurance, my middle son wants to pay. He is one of those 46% who thinks he doesn’t pay enough taxes on his income.
Guy: “Plus, I was not happy that Bush did that”
Well, Medicare Part D was signed into law in 2003. Riddle me this: who did you vote for in 2004?
I’ve heard a hilarious amount of Republicans trash Bush after being called to the carpet when complaining of “Obama’s” spending. So far, with no exceptions, they all voted for him twice along with every Republican representative they could.
My conclusion is, if you voted for all these Republicans and they did terrible things you hated, then your political opinions are worthless and should be ignored.