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Woe Be Gone?

Garrison Keillor says “Trump voters will not like what happens next“. Here are a few short quotes so you will go read the whole thing:

The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that’s their problem now. They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls.

Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.

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  1. Jonah wrote:

    Looking at the CNN exit polls a few things stand out for me
    – The margin of difference in close states like PA and FL is the less than what johnson and stein got together or in some cases what johnson got alone. So protest voters made trump possible
    – I’m shocked that 42% of women voted for trump. Friends and family who are female were shocked to the point of disbelief that he won so why did so many women vote for him? Pressure by their husbands, or is it a case of its the economy stupid and the lower tax rates pr racial prejudice or a mix won out over respect for women.
    – The FBI revelation may have affected a small but significant number of voters. Given stories about internal revolt leading to leaks it seems worrisome.

    I’m also disgusted by the hatred for Hillary. She made mistakes but she doesn’t deserve stuff like this
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/730672/Hillary-Clinton-booed-New-York-Stock-Exchange-US-election-2016

    The biggest problems with a Trump presidency for me are going to be civility going out the window and the impact on climate change. Financially I am better off with Trump but I am dismayed. From the last few elections it seems to me that the least charismatic candidate has lost and I can’t think of a single politician from the democratic side or the centrist republican side who would be able to win in 2020. Right now I am hoping Mark Cuban decides to run.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 3:51 am | Permalink
  2. Jonah wrote:

    Exit polls

    http://edition.cnn.com/election/results/president

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 3:51 am | Permalink
  3. ebdoug wrote:

    The women voting for Trump have no self respect. This might colorate to the number of woman who have been abused as children.(sexually or otherwise) A sign that women have been abused is shown by overweight women. Women eat to console themselves on the abuse. I was 50 before I realized I’d been abused as a child. At eleven I was in the hospital with a 105 fever never diagnosed. They sent some poor embarrassed intern (male) in to catheterized me. He was embarrassed as I was. It left a lasting impression on me until I was 50. And yes, I’m fat, but I’m not obese as you see many woman.

    I, too, will be better financial. Not mentioned by Jonah is Moron saying he was going to run the government like a business. “You’re fired” He won’t be able to do this, but any cut back in employment is going to effect everyone across the board. Also with all Republican in all branches, we get get Privatized social security, again I don’t depend on it. Drug stocks went way up yesterday, there will be no control on them.
    Middle class is not getting tax breaks, they are getting cuts in their deductions making the taxes go up for them. Rich of course will pay less. People like Warren Buffett will still be giving to charity. People like Donald Duck never did in the first place, except to himself.

    Somewhere there is a saying about getting promised everything and having empty hands to show for it. This from someone who lies 71% of the time. thank goodness for the three branches of government.

    This is March 2003 all over again.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:29 am | Permalink
  4. ebdoug wrote:

    “the Russians are coming, The Russians are coming.” Let’s not forget Putin has his puppet in place.

    The waters are rising, the waters are rising.

    One gallon of fuel oil in car, house, plane business is equal to four gallons of glacial melt. Since Moron is 70 and cares only for himself, he doesn’t care if the continent goes under water.

    Ironically the Cubans in Florida who escaped communism voted for know nothing Rubio; hence Donald Duck and tipped Florida to Red will be bringing back Communism under Putin and will go underwater first.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:46 am | Permalink
  5. David Freeman wrote:

    Yes,Trump voters will not be happy with much of what happens next but WTF to Keillor saying, “The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones, and they will not like what happens next.” Women and the LGBTQ are far far more vulnerable without white heterosexual male privilege to provide them any cover!!!
    Yes the irony of him screwing his most fervent supporters is rich but they are not innocent and they are not the most vulnerable by a long shot.
    As an aside: I’m not usually a bitter person but after having government institutions give 2 of the last 5 presidential elections to a Republican candidate with fewer votes, I’m feeling bitter.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 9:08 am | Permalink
  6. David Freeman wrote:

    Oops need a ” after ‘next’ in my comment. I was too worked up to review my comment before hitting ‘submit’. I’m having trouble with ‘submit’ lately 🙂

    [fixed that for you. –iron]

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 9:11 am | Permalink
  7. Wildwood wrote:

    I wish I could feel as good as bitter. I see nothing but dark days coming. There is not one redeeming thing about that man. My husband, (something of a Pollyanna),thinks that this might turn out okay because Trump was a Dem just a few years back and might revert back. Hogwash. King Trump will rule as he ran, with no regard for anyone, or anything that stands in his path and disagrees with him. For once, I hope my own Pollyanna is right. But I won’t believe it until I see it.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 9:19 am | Permalink
  8. Ralph wrote:

    Keillor is a national treasure, IMHO, and as usual puts this catastrophic development into some perspective.

    Fun fact: the last two Republican presidents (W and now T) captured the office despite losing the popular vote. It’s way past time to put the anachronistic Electoral College into the dustbin of history along with the Pony Express and Morse Code. How can we call ourselves a representative democracy when this and partisan gerrymandering still rule? The Founders could never conceive of the digital, jet-fueled future we have today and understand their concern at the time with avoiding a “tyranny of the majority”, but have to believe this was not their intention.

    Speaking of which, Michael Moore has a Facebook post of his Morning (Mourning?) After To-Do List that’s going viral.
    https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/posts/10153913074756857

    Something tells me many Trump voters are going to experience yuuge buyers remorse before very long. The guy promising to drain the swamp is already surrounded by a small army of swamp people vying for cabinet slots and close advisers (Gingrich, Christie, Ghouliani, Stone, Bannon, Ailes). Yeesh!

    IK et. al. – please don’t leave the country. Help us lead the way back to the 21st Century.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 9:19 am | Permalink
  9. JWHAT wrote:

    I would change it to “I sure WISH the Trump voters would understand what will happen to them”. After years of seeing these people vote against their own interests for years and somehow blame the bad results on Democrats, I’m not holding out any hope they will see the error of their ways this time no matter how bad it gets for them.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 2:22 pm | Permalink
  10. PATRIOTSGT wrote:

    PI readers, really? So the party of tolerance is so intolerant? The anti bigots are so bigoted? Wow, just wow!

    A quote from the article:
    “They wanted only to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple of six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls.” There is so much wrong with that statement it just defies response.

    From a PI contributor:
    “The women voting for Trump have no self respect.” and theorizing “the number of woman who have been abused as children”

    Lets just shame, belittle, abuse, chastise, hate, demagogue, ostracize, beat up, kill and cast in the fires of hell those vile Trump supporters.

    My friends, if you belong to the party of tolerance and inclusiveness then perhaps you need to re read that section of your handbook.

    Not once did Trump call the supporters of Clinton or Obama any of the names he used directly to them. However, Clinton did and Obama insinuated. So who exactly is the more party better suited to lead the entire nation and not just those who vote for a candidate. You must separate the candidate from the supporters of that candidate. They are not one in the same. Talk to your friends and family who supported the other candidate and if you don’t have anyone that falls into that category close to you, then perhaps your circle of friends is way to narrow.

    Thank you for insulting my sister, my Hispanic sister in law, my Hispanic niece, many of my co-workers, many of my military friends, my nephew, and 60 million other Americans.

    Have a great day!

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 2:52 pm | Permalink
  11. Iron Knee wrote:

    PSgt, you say “Not once did Trump call the supporters of Clinton or Obama any of the names he used directly to them.” That is so obviously false I can’t believe you said it. He called plenty of Clinton supporters names, for example “Pocahontas”. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html has a list of everyone he insulted, and see the part of the list where he insulted people who supported Clinton.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:13 pm | Permalink
  12. PATRIOTSGT wrote:

    IK- agreed he called some individuals names, but he never labeled millions or in the cases i stated above 60,000,000 people or that any women who voted for Hillary has no self respect or must have been abused as a child. If they as an individual called out Trump then he responded. Not like what I was talking about. And more so columnists or TV personalities shaming and labeling people like my family.

    Way different. You should address those issues my friend and point out the hypocrisy of the “tolerant” party.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 4:50 pm | Permalink
  13. ebdoug wrote:

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_ACCESS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-11-10-17-53-58

    I’m “shocked” that our new employee for the U.S. is going to be working in secret, not letting those of us who employ him to know what he is doing.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 5:09 pm | Permalink
  14. Max wrote:

    The difference between Trump and a conventional politician is that we don’t have to wait a few years to find out we elected a horrible person. We know already. Trump has nowhere to go but up!

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 6:24 pm | Permalink
  15. JWHAT wrote:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH…..JUST LMFAO! Trump supporters…sheeesh! Were they even listening?

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 7:04 pm | Permalink
  16. Dave, TN wrote:

    Kasich, made an interesting comment today “I just want yo remind everyone in our country that the office of the presidency needs to be respected”. Where in the Hell of Republican misfits was this sentiment during the eight years of Obama.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 8:34 pm | Permalink
  17. Wildwood wrote:

    I’m not tolerant, never have been. When you insult and demean women who can’t fight back, when you ridicule a man because of a disorder, when you get elected by inciting thousands with your hate filled speeches, when you become a threat to my way of life, then I’m sorry but I’m not going to be tolerant of you or those who put you in power. I guess I’m a poor excuse for a Dem but I’m not tolerant.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 10:22 pm | Permalink
  18. PatriotSGT wrote:

    Try these 2 opinion pieces to broaden the perspective.
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/opinions/liberals-chill-out-about-trump-victory-stanley/index.html

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/opinions/democratic-party-burn-tasini/index.html

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 11:02 pm | Permalink
  19. David Freeman wrote:

    Patriotsgt, does the FBIs involvement in this election concern you? What about Russian involvement via Wikileaks? What about the successful voter suppression efforts here in NC and other crucial states?
    Will a Guiliani led Justice department purge the FBI of bad actors or will government institutions get more involved in influencing our elections? Will a stacked Supreme Court be even more activist and partisan as demonstrated by the decision for the popular vote loser Bush in 2000?
    Every Trump supporter needs to ask the question, “why do the kkk, neo-nazis so enthusiastically support Trump? Why the bromance with Putin?
    Sorry but your concerns about insulting Trump supporters seem pretty minor to me compared to the near-death of democracy.
    I don’t think that it is unreasonable for racial and social minority’s to feel threatened by a authoritarian narcissistic power hungry individual who is overwhelmingly supported by our military, FBI, police departments, and will soon control both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court and Justice Department. Yeah, I’d be pretty damn scared if I weren’t a white, heterosexual male. Oh, wait a sec I’m scared too.
    I’ve disagreed with you often but I have and still do respect you. I will never, however, respect Trump and his most enthusiastic supporters not Republican leadership which moved from a past position of loyal opposition to simple unprincipled opposition.

    Thursday, November 10, 2016 at 11:53 pm | Permalink
  20. Jonah wrote:

    I think its very ironical that trump supporters are pissed at being called names but not at being lied to. Pride comes first I guess. I’ll admit this has been one of the most perplexing elections I’ve witnessed. From the eexit polls voters earning more than 100K appear to have favored Trump for understandable reasons. However the angry voters from PA, MI, WI are supposedly low income voters who should have overwhelmingly voted for Clinton because her tax policy should favor them. Instead they voted for the party that will repeal dodd-frank that was passed to prevent 2008 and a guy who promised to bring back jobs but with no details how. I’m not sure what their logic was. Change for the sake of change irrespective of if that change worsens their situation.

    Friday, November 11, 2016 at 3:08 am | Permalink
  21. PATRIOTSGT wrote:

    David, you are absolutely correct that people have the right to be concerned with the issues you brought up, and probably some you didn’t mention. All are fair game. I just take issue with broad stroke vile attacks against 60M. people. I have no issue with anyone calling Trump anything.

    Jonah, if you read the short opinion piece from Tasini above it might help. Trump or Bill Clinton, lots of voters are used to being lied to repeatedly,but still vote for the liar if they believe he/she are willing to fight to fix what you believe needs fixing.

    I think there are a lot of issues that need fixing. I believe that Trump is farther left on some issues then Clinton was. Farther right on others. Both were right that we need real middle class jobs, not the majority retail/service jobs that can’t or barely support anyone. Yes we need to fix or replace the ACA, the Dems agree, maybe Trump can make the Reps do it. Remember, he often stated this is America we can’t have people dying in the streets because they don’t have healthcare. Maybe he is able to tackle the special interests and lobbyists on both sides and challenge Glass Steagle which brought about the mega mergers that monopolized the banks allowing them to merge banking, investments and mortgages under a single bank. Did that Clinton era law lead to the recession?

    Bottom line, you can give Trump a chance or not, i don’t care. The millennials out there protesting have every right to do so. I understand their pain, first their candidate was used as a puppet by those that control the party to put a very flawed candidate to face another flawed candidate and lost. It was a complete shock to them, because the media that supported their candidate had told them repeatedly all the way up to election day, that she would win. I’d a been shocked too.

    Friday, November 11, 2016 at 6:56 am | Permalink
  22. Jonah wrote:

    Here’s the “change” trump has been promising. Back to the days before 2008. Rinse and repeat.

    Friday, November 11, 2016 at 7:41 am | Permalink
  23. Jonah wrote:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/donald-trump-transition-drain-the-swamp/index.html

    Friday, November 11, 2016 at 7:41 am | Permalink
  24. rk wrote:

    The FBI has actually been involved in elections at least since the 1920s, when Hoover took over. He made a habit of it.

    Since Hoover, Congress has put in place a 10-year limit of the head of the FBI and set up an oversight committee to stop that sort of thing. Apparently the committee isn’t doing its job.

    Friday, November 11, 2016 at 11:03 am | Permalink