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I just don’t know about this Obama fellow

Tom Tomorrow
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The Electoral Vote site has an excellent analysis on whether governmental experience is any predictor of how good a president will be. For example, James Buchannan was the most experienced person ever elected president, but he is considered to be one of the worst (only slightly edged out by Warren G. Harding for that “honor”). Or take Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, who had little experience but who are considered to have been very good presidents. Their conclusion — “There does not appear to be any relation between experience and greatness”.

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  1. Jan wrote:

    Well…I haven’t been in a coma for the last eight years…and the idea of Obama as president IS scary!!! He’s a socialist, through and through, and YES, he has ONLY served in the Senate for a brief time. I know many people only plan to vote for him because that would make him the first African-American (although he is ONLY half African-American…his Mother is WHITE). Oh, and by the way, I heard a speech he gave while out on the campaign trail where he actually says, he’s only been to 57 states so far…and he still had one to go and there was one he had not visited!!! That makes 59 states!!! He was basically saying there were 59 states in the U.S.A.!!!! Folks, even if you count all of the Territories of the U.S., that STILL does not add up to 59!! I would think that, of ALL people, a prospective President of the United States of America would know how many states there are…by the way, for those out there who don’t know…we only have 50 states!!!

    Yep…having Obama is, for me, and lots of other people, a very frightening prospect. God help us all if he becomes President.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 10:22 am | Permalink
  2. It will be wonderful to have an intelligent human being in the White House and it will be great NOT to be in a coma!

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 10:32 am | Permalink
  3. cmsg wrote:

    Jan…do you honestly believe what you are saying? I respect your opinion but it sounds like one born out of fear alone. I think you missed the point of the comic. The Republican party has driven this country into the ground. If you have not noticed this most salient fact then I am afraid that you have been in a coma for the past 8 years. I am sure there are some people who will vote for Obama because he is 1/2 black but you can be sure more people will vote for McCain because he is all white. This is the sad truth even though no candidate should be voted for based upon his/her skin color.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 10:36 am | Permalink
  4. Casey wrote:

    Jan, did you ever think he was totaling up the amount of states he had visited? He obviously visited some states TWICE, and that’s where he got 59. I bet you think he was sworn in on a Quaran and refuses to say the pledge, too.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 10:38 am | Permalink
  5. g. Anton wrote:

    It’s not the ones that I don’t know that scare me; it’s the ones I do know that I wonder about.

    For example, Obama has just named Biden as his vice-presidental candidate. I would describe Biden as a John McLain with brains. I’m not sure that a John McMlain with brains is really such a good thing. For example, to quote Biden about John McClain, (I paraphase for brevity), “My good friend John McLain is a real asshole”. With good friends like Biden, who needs enemies?

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 11:19 am | Permalink
  6. John Q wrote:

    Anyone who says that his view on something is above his paygrade has issues. Let us know your views. if you believe life and human rights begin at conception, tell us. if you believe they begin when the child hits 3, tell us, but don’t tell us your views are above your pay grade

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 11:58 am | Permalink
  7. michelle wrote:

    Democrats are so dismayed by the idiots currently in power, they feel compelled to vote in their own idiots. Monkey see, monkey do. I vote: none of the above.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 12:17 pm | Permalink
  8. Mr. Wind-up Bird wrote:

    Why the hell are you people so concerned with all these stupid comments some politicians make? ‘Ohhh noo look, he said 59 states! We don’t have 59 states!’ Yes, I’m sure someone like Obama who has taught constitutional law has no idea how many states we have [/sarcasm]. Get real, idiots.
    Obama is anything BUT a socialist. Hell, Hillary Clinton is more socialist than Obama! And I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but the size of the government has grown quite a bit under Bush…
    The fact is, with a democratic majority in the Congress and a Democrat in the White House, they won’t be afraid (hopefully) to pass all the legislation they’re afraid to pass right now.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 1:07 pm | Permalink
  9. iron wrote:

    Lighten up. This is a humor site. Get it?

    If I wanted name calling, I’d watch cable news.

    And, as a general rule, it is not a good idea to feed trolls. Obama is a socialist? Now that’s funny!

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 1:18 pm | Permalink
  10. sayh wrote:

    Well for me my comment in this situation is only God knows everything..
    So we just hope everything will be fine and to make sure we acknowledge that we make a good things impossible.And all people in this world made work hard so that we can achieve our objectives.

    I like and i love this site actually im a new blogger.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 1:42 pm | Permalink
  11. Fitness to be Pres wrote:

    Hey there G. Anton, You typed “John McLain” but given the context of your post, I think we all can agree you were referring to….Jack Lalanne.

    I will add, since you didn’t mention, that Jack kept those POW’s in shape during the toughest of times. Push ups, sit ups, you name it. Jack is indeed a great Patriot.

    I’ll stop here for “brevity”.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
  12. Darin McDonald wrote:

    Jan has no sense of humor, life must suck for her. Jesus and the bible relates humans to sheep. Know how to get sheep to become a collective force? walk around their midst with a bucket of corn… they’ll follow Bin laden to the gates of hell for a bucket of corn. Know how to get Christians to become a collective force? Use wedge issues like abortion and gay marriage issues, make sure to never actually change it permanently, because then you won’t have a rally point. See that’s what politicians do, Notice that Bush was very adamant about the two issues, and Christians came out if force? Then the next 8 years not even a mention. And now it’s time for a new president, and look at the issues being put out there. Is it me or are jesus freaks some of the stupidest humans walking the planet? don’t kill a fetus but bomb the shit out of brown people, ya’all make me sick.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 2:23 pm | Permalink
  13. TJ wrote:

    I have to vote for Obama for one simple reason: if he’s not elected, brothers all over the country will be saying, “Ya see? Ya see? Don’t say I didn’t tell you!”

    OK now that I’m done being funny, let me get serious: I have to vote for Obama because I don’t want to spend four years looking at that McCain face.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
  14. Yudith wrote:

    Hey, I kind of missed the hair pulling at vivirlatino.com, but this is even better. Hair pulling beyond gender and color. I think I’m gonna adopt this site.

    P.S. Funny comic. Please put more of theses.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 3:21 pm | Permalink
  15. JANSANITIOT wrote:

    Jan, Obama said he had visited 57 states, was unable to get to Alaska, and was ran out of time before he went to the last to. This adds up to 60. I’m pretty sure he meant to say 47 states, not 57. It was a slip of the tongue.

    He probably knows how many states there are, he’s running for president after all. Then again, what do I know about the American education system?

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 3:56 pm | Permalink
  16. Capt Turk wrote:

    Personally, I’d come closer to voting for Donald Duck, or Mickey Moose, than either one of those clowns. No matter which gets put in office by the electoral college, this country is in deep trouble. And as far as voting is concerned, if your vote mattered, do you really think they would let you vote?

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 7:38 pm | Permalink
  17. DMac wrote:

    I hear ya Capt T, don’t think they’d let us vote if it would count… This electoral college thing needs to be modified. Some how it’s the Aristocrats and rich in power and ruling the rest, If we did switch to a Popular vote… we could end up with a Populist. some one who is only for the poor… since there are more poor than any others… that has a tendency to become a dictatorship … so history has shown…

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 9:30 pm | Permalink
  18. J.J. wrote:

    First off The comic was great. We definitely need a change from the moron we have in office now….

    Secondly
    I agree with you Capt. T. No one’s votes count. It’s to make the United Sheep fell good about themselves. If anyone believes that Bush won the election by popular vote just take a look at the polls. Gore **BEAT** GWB in the popular vote, but The Electoral College voted for Bush. And this time they took away the “Voting Rights” of Florida and Michigan.

    I’m pretty sure if I was going to vote. I’d vote for Stephen Colbert or Jerry Springer. Because the way I see it is we are either going to burn one of two ways: On our own Soil with Obama or in Iraq with McCain….

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 10:52 pm | Permalink
  19. equaleyes wrote:

    So let me get this straight. Just because George Bush and Dick Cheney were facist morons, we should elect just any old dolt with a smiling face and a bag full of promises. Sure. Why not. It’s not like we’re ever going to get a more reasonable choice from the GOP and DNC.

    Sunday, August 24, 2008 at 10:58 pm | Permalink
  20. DMac wrote:

    Well equaleyes, I don’t know about you, but I like to get Kissed when I’m getting Screwed, and the last 8 years, they had me face down, pounding me in the ass with Tin Foil as a condom and comet as a lubricant, and not once did I get kissed.
    I was hoping for Obama, he gives me hope and promises, and He is far from a smiling Dolt, he is extremely, intelligent and social conscious, and a Uniter he will rebuild the bridges that bomb happy bush destroyed with extreme prejudice. Now that Obama picked a VP that has been in the congress longer than my wife has been alive, and he is all old school same-O politics, that berated Obama in the Primaries for his stances, is now on the Band wagon… is just BS to me… so I’m hoping McSame McLame McBush McCain will pick someone Like Huckabee for VP and Not the Head hunter Romney, who made his Millions by being a reorganization consultant, he goes in to a company cuts jobs, slashes benefits, takes a percentage of the savings, and gives the rest to the CEO’s and the ShareHolders… just the Aristocrat I want in charge of our economic crisis… NOT!!!

    Monday, August 25, 2008 at 9:12 am | Permalink
  21. J.F.K play it again wrote:

    Another J.F.K. I knew J.F.K. and he is another J.F.K. Happy day’s are hear again !

    We will be number one again !

    Monday, August 25, 2008 at 1:39 pm | Permalink
  22. Desert-jade wrote:

    The comic was hillarious, but the comments were even funnier. I cant believe how many people out there are still convinced that McCain (a.k.a bush with a cane) could do a good job as a president. I mean, ok…so Obama may not look as good as say Lincoln in our millionth dollar bill ( you gotta admit he looks a tad like a ninja turtle) but at least hes different. I agree that anyone who votes Republican this year just likes getting pounded with Tin foil…at least voting for Obama we may get pounded but he will be nice enough to switch over to seran-wrap. Love this site. New fan! 🙂

    Monday, August 25, 2008 at 5:43 pm | Permalink
  23. In case you feel like posting another hate filled “I’m going to vote for Obama/McCain and this person disagrees with me for a retarded reason so I need to post my retarded reason” please don’t. If you feel the urg to do so you probably don’t have any idea what you are saying anyway, i.e. every post above this one. Yes, you all are ignorant people.

    Monday, August 25, 2008 at 5:57 pm | Permalink
  24. Tom Today wrote:

    It’s the Supreme Court Stupid. It’ll be stacked conservative and it’ll be eons before we can fix the problems cause by a conservative Court. America: Love it or fix it.

    Monday, August 25, 2008 at 9:05 pm | Permalink
  25. DMac wrote:

    Your All Wrong, you to must be very ignorant…or you haven’t graduated the third grade yet…keep trying.
    it should be You’re it is a contraction of You Are, since you are “you’re” trying to state You All are Wrong. We in the south like to say Ya’ll for singular, and all Ya’ll for plural applications, makes it easier not to mess up. like your (not you’re) ignorant ass. Stay in school kids…it will be the only way to avoid the draft McSame McLame McBush McCain wants to get going again, to supply fresh bodies for our Occupation(s)… Two Book to read or listen to: The Confessions of an Economic Hit Man and The Secret History of the American Empire. Both by John Perkins…

    Tuesday, August 26, 2008 at 11:03 am | Permalink
  26. iron wrote:

    Aimomo wrote an interesting commentary on the comments for this post:
    http://aimomo.livejournal.com/194030.html
    Gotta love the interactivity of the web!

    Also an interesting love poem from her blog:

    Shhhh, don’t tell anyone, but i’m gonna go down on you…
    And you’re gonna love it…
    But it’s only going to be long enough to let you start enjoying it…
    Then i’m gonna come back up again and fuck you, big time…
    Lots of love,
    Fuel Prices

    Tuesday, August 26, 2008 at 7:58 pm | Permalink
  27. Willy wrote:

    To every idiot in the comment section so far:

    1. Educate yourselves; especially those of you who support either McCain or Obama and even more to those who believe that your votes don’t matter (OMFGzor CoNsP1RaCyyyyy!!!!one11!!).
    2. Don’t be such grammar nazis (this obviously only applies to a select few, but everyone thus far has been so pathetically stupid, I feel it is still necessary to point out).
    3. Get some fucking senses of humor. It’s a comic. Laugh. Get those sticks out of your asses.

    Tuesday, August 26, 2008 at 8:57 pm | Permalink
  28. aimomo wrote:

    Iron, thanks again for telling me about the link. I just wanted to inform you that I’m female.

    And, while I’m here, I’ll just point out that I think this comic is hilarious! Even if I sort of knew what was coming, I still giggled. I liked it so much I used it as my Facebook image–with a link to this page, of course. If that’s not okay, I’ll take it down.

    Tuesday, August 26, 2008 at 10:48 pm | Permalink
  29. kaokokung wrote:

    JJ… you wrote that the electoral college took away the voting rights of Florida and Michigan… that is incorrect. The Democratic party initially took away those states ability to vote for the Democratic nominee at the Democratic convention. They did not take away those states’ citizens right to vote in the general election, because they can’t, nor could anyone.

    As for those writing about how what the people vote for doesn’t matter because the electoral college decides who is president, you are only partially correct. In all but two states, the electors for your state vote for whoever has the most popular votes in your state, so if the republican candidate has the most votes for your state, all the electoral points your state has go to that candidate. Your votes do count, but if the majority of people in your state vote for the other candidate, well, that’s just tough luck. If you don’t like it, get out in support of your candidate and make sure people get out to vote.

    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 12:26 am | Permalink
  30. DMac wrote:

    I completely disagree with limp Willy’s Intro, I do think the Comic is extremely funny and a great satirical dig, and everyone has brought forth funny and interesting comments, giving everyone something to ponder and go research, When comments are posted calling everyone an idiot for their ideas, I think it is quite fair to point out the ‘pot calling the kettle black’ an idiot calling others idiots in other words. And given only the post as a reference and insight to the character or education or mind set of the poster, it is all fair game. I do agree partially with his first point, Educate yourselves, meaning stay away from Fox news, spend time on NPR, C-Span, Factcheck.org,Snopes.com, and several other sources of info. and I definitely agree with his 3rd point, get a sense of humor.

    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 9:13 am | Permalink
  31. Stan wrote:

    Nice comic, comical comments!

    I will be voting for….Obama. You had better believe it! I used to like McCain. I even used to say I would vote for him, and I am a Democrat! He used to do whatever it took to get the job done. He stood for what he felt was right, whether or not his party agreed. However, over the past few years, something happened to him. What I am not sure. Perhaps he is going scenile or something. Maybe the party has him over a barrel. Whatever it is, he is not the same man.

    McCain supporting torture, and in extension putting our boys at risk? McCain has flipped on so many issues, and on the ones he has been consistent on he has been consistently wrong, imo. He has voted numerous times against our Vets. He has refused to vote for equal pay for women. He now wants to drill, when in the past he called that plan fruitless. He tells sexist jokes, and also makes jokes about killing Iranians. That is NOT Presidential! His memory seems to be failing him. He can’t remember that Czechoslovakia hasn’t been a country for some time now, and can’t get Sunni’s and Shiites straight. His foreign policy is authored by a lobbyist for foreign nations. He has all kinds of lobbyists writing policies for him, bank lobbyists, and lobbyists for dictators and leaders of countries with terrorist ties. Sure, they had to give up the lobbying job to work for him, but don’t you think it is odd that they all dropped their jobs to work for him and write his policies? And some have even admitted they will go back to lobbying later, and I imagine they will get fat paychecks for their work in buying an administration should he win. The Rove people, the same people he complained bitterly about, all now work for him. There seems to be no boundaries with him. Not to mention he voted for Bush policies 95% of the time. I don’t WANT more Bush policies! Tax cuts for the rich? Are you kidding me? We are in an economic crisis? Have we learned nothing from history? WHen the rich are not taxed proportionately, democracies FAIL.

    Obama has been almost prophetic in his words since he was elected. Time and again he was right about foreign and domestic policy. HE wanted a timetable. McCain and Bush said it was cut and run foolishness. We now have a timetable for leaving Iraq. He wanted to engage in political discussion with our adversaries. Bush and McCain called him an appeaser. We are now talking with Iran. By the way, one of the purposes of the State department is to TALK to our adversaries!

    They said Clinton was too inexperienced. Yet he lead us through some of the best times this country has known! Obama will return us to intelligent government once again! GO OBAMA!

    Wednesday, August 27, 2008 at 11:54 pm | Permalink
  32. DMac wrote:

    I’m definitely with ya Stan, My opinion, we finally have a choice, rather that the lesser of two evils,
    I just have to laugh at the PUMA people, now here is a group that just missed the boat, they would cut of there noses just to spite their faces. Obviously they are not suffering in the current conditions that DICK Cheney and Bush whacker, have led the country to. They don’t have any relatives serving in the Armed forces, They have tons of money, etc… they would rather vote for a guy that plans on continuing the same failed polices, then vote for an extremely intelligent, insightful, caring guy like Obama, if they want to punish the Dem. party. at least they could do in a fashion that could get us policies better than McSame McLame McBush McCain, and vote for Ron Paul or the nut job Nader… would still be better than the Republican policies.

    Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 8:25 am | Permalink
  33. So, basically, this cartoon is stating that Obama’s inexperience will be 4 more years of Bush?

    Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 10:18 am | Permalink
  34. iron wrote:

    Mutual Disdain, please see http://www.politicalirony.com/2008/08/25/the-wizzdom-of-crowds/

    Thursday, August 28, 2008 at 2:12 pm | Permalink
  35. Buky wrote:

    Vote Kurt Vonnegut, let’s elect a dead man since dead men elect presidents.

    Friday, August 29, 2008 at 11:43 am | Permalink
  36. Word of Truth wrote:

    Frankly, both presidential candidates (and their vice presidents) are poor choices. Who in their right minds thought either of them were the best options in their respective parties?

    However I must disagree with JAN. Most people are not voting for Obama to make him the first Afican American President … I don’t care what color skin he is, or even what sex (I myself find Hillary to be a better choice than Obama or McCane). I believe that most people are voting against McCane and his plans to put the country further into recession (if McCane was a beer, he would be “Bush” Lite) … Obama just so fortunately is the other candidate and luck be it, he be black.

    Wednesday, September 3, 2008 at 8:53 am | Permalink

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