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Trump’s Real Debate Pivot?

Taegan Goddard has a very interesting reaction to Sunday night’s second debate. Trump didn’t try to act presidential — saying that Clinton should be thrown in jail and generally attacking her constantly. That may endear him with his base, but won’t gain him any new votes, which he desperately needs to actually win.

Why is he doing that? Goddard’s theory is that Trump has given up on winning the presidency. Instead, he is laying the foundation for a media venture targeted at his angry supporters. “He’s now speaking only to the audience for a speculated media venture. It’s not a mistake that his top advisers are former Fox News chief Roger Ailes and Breitbart’s Stephen Bannon.”

In addition, this debate marks the official divorce of Donald Trump from the Republican Party. Trump even dismissed his own running mate’s comments on Russia. It is only a matter of time before the GOP returns the favor.

Clinton might call Trump’s supporters “deplorables”, but Trump sees them as a cash cow willing to throw money at Trump. As usual, he is figuring out how to make money off this whole thing. Especially since his days as a real estate developer are almost certainly over. He’s comfortable with media through “The Apprentice”, so why not start the Trump News Network? He probably even needs the money.

I keep seeing a meme going around that someday in the near future, Donald Trump will claim that he never actually ran for president. I now believe it.



  1. ebdoug wrote:

    His walk across the stage as he paced was very like a duck.

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 5:36 am | Permalink
  2. Hassan wrote:

    I am not sure why Hillary did not deliver knock out punch. May be she is waiting for third debate or more videos (or perhaps self destruct). Or may be she knows she is going to win, no need to do anything else.

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 6:45 am | Permalink
  3. Wildwood wrote:

    Hassan, I think the latter. They both looked tired to me. Trump is still sniffling and if it was a cold, it should be gone by now.

    I thought at the beginning of all this that Trump was more interested in seeing what would happen if he ran than actually winning. Maybe the whole thing started out as a sort of joke, morphed into “Hey, maybe I can really do this.” for a while, and then became “There are ways to turn this into money.” But perhaps making money was the original and only reason he ran. Since he lies so consistently about almost everything, we will never really know. I doubt even he knows.

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 7:06 am | Permalink
  4. JWHAT wrote:

    Has anybody heard the sniffling during his town halls or other speaking events? I haven’t noticed it. Do you think he’s getting coked up before the debates? Probably not but, like LBJ said, somebody ought to make him deny it.

    Trump News Network?!?!? God, the right wing is determined to destroy our country.

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:47 am | Permalink
  5. PatriotSGT wrote:

    I know this is a little off topic, but I was wondering if anyone else has observed the same.

    During the last election, and most for that matter, I would see in my “blue” state lots of presidential bumper stickers and lawn signs, etc. I started noticing while driving in different areas that there are so few, it almost seems like an off year election. I see local campaign stuff, but virtually no presidential rah rah. The other day I had the unfortunate experience of spending several hours on the road and mingling with a few thousand cars and trucks. I saw exactly 1 Hillary and 3 Trump and 4 Johnson bumper stickers. I actually saw more Obama/Biden stickers then all 3 combined. On lawns and intersections I saw more Johnson signs then Trump and Clinton combined.

    Has anyone else noticed this in their areas?

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 9:36 am | Permalink
  6. William wrote:

    PATRIOTSGT: That’s true here in Oregon as well, and I don’t recall seeing many signs or bumper stickers along I-5 on my way to and from Seattle last weekend. I’ve seen a small number of Trump signs in some rural areas, whereas usually dozens appear. In towns, almost nobody has a sign for either candidate. Few cars sport bumper stickers for either candidate. I see similar small numbers for Obama in 2008 & 2012, and a few for Bernie.

    As a guess, this reflects lack of enthusiasm for either candidate.

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 10:19 am | Permalink
  7. ebdoug wrote:

    I think it is fear. I would not dare put out a sticker for fear of retaliation. I will keep my Warren/sanders, Sanders/Warren sticker on until November 8th. I feel safe with that one. Does raise anyone’s ire.

    The sniffling this time was more snorting.

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:11 pm | Permalink
  8. Max wrote:

    He won’t deny running, but he’ll definitely deny losing. “It was rigged!”

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 12:23 pm | Permalink
  9. JWHAT wrote:

    I’m a school bus driver and I noticed that many Trump signs disappeared between Friday and my routes today. Maybe people are starting to get sick of this monster.

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 4:51 pm | Permalink
  10. Wildwood wrote:

    I think I mentioned this in a post a couple of weeks ago. I live in a largely Repub area. No signs anywhere. Not even for down ticket candidates. Highly unusual. I think they are embarrassed by their choice for president. Some might not even be voting this year. At least not for DJT. I suppose it would be too much to hope that they abandon the down ticket people as well.

    Monday, October 10, 2016 at 8:12 pm | Permalink
  11. il-08 wrote:

    I seem to remember that the Donald bragged about making money while running for president. Then I heard that he charges the republican party for the use of trump tower as an election HQ and charges for the use of his airplane. At three times the normal rates. Maybe he is just trying to make money out of running and nothing else. People are saying….

    Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 7:50 am | Permalink